Comments on: Say goodbye to the incandescent light bulb Pt 2. http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:25:24 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dan Kelley http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20824 Dan Kelley Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:56:32 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-20824 CFLs sure have come down in price and gone up in quality since this article was written... but now come the LEDs! :) While still a little pricey... they are getting better and better all the time. CFLs sure have come down in price and gone up in quality since this article was written… but now come the LEDs! :) While still a little pricey… they are getting better and better all the time.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-16433 Thomas Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:41:59 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-16433 I hate CFLs. Sure, some people may have a good reason for using and even promoting them, but I do not like them. I have nothing against making them better, but I do not like them. I want to use incandescent light bulbs; I don't care if they use more energy or may cost more money. It is just wrong for the government to ban them. If I cannot obtain normal light bulbs in the future, then I will have to stock up on 100 watts. I respect the opinions and desires of everyone, but I will not tolerate the lack of tolerance for mine. I hate CFLs. Sure, some people may have a good reason for using and even promoting them, but I do not like them. I have nothing against making them better, but I do not like them. I want to use incandescent light bulbs; I don’t care if they use more energy or may cost more money. It is just wrong for the government to ban them.

If I cannot obtain normal light bulbs in the future, then I will have to stock up on 100 watts.

I respect the opinions and desires of everyone, but I will not tolerate the lack of tolerance for mine.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15742 Nathan Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:56:59 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15742 I used to work for an online light bulb company, 1000bulbs, and I know how big of an impact this is going to have on the lighting industry. However, if you read into this, Philips was pushing for this legislation to force their cheaper competitors out of business. As if that wasn't enough, if you read the bill; it also includes millions of dollars in "prize money" for the company that invents the first bulbs that pass the standards Philips has helped devise. I used to work for an online light bulb company, 1000bulbs, and I know how big of an impact this is going to have on the lighting industry. However, if you read into this, Philips was pushing for this legislation to force their cheaper competitors out of business. As if that wasn’t enough, if you read the bill; it also includes millions of dollars in “prize money” for the company that invents the first bulbs that pass the standards Philips has helped devise.

]]> By: Bill http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15612 Bill Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:07:33 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15612 Interesting. I forsee a resurgence of old mogul base lamps. Those things are huge but available in sizes from 40 watts to 300 watts. I have one of those table lamps around here somewhere. Interesting. I forsee a resurgence of old mogul base lamps. Those things are huge but available in sizes from 40 watts to 300 watts. I have one of those table lamps around here somewhere.

]]> By: Justin http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15546 Justin Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:19:03 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15546 <i>Hmm, I forsee 2700 lumen incandescent bulbs arriving on hardware store shelves in the near future…</i> Don't hold your breath. As I understand it the lumen output of an incandescent is pretty much linear, so in order to get 2700 lumens you'd need to be pushing 200-250 watts through the bulb. I don't see a lumen output rating but <a href="http://www.pictureline.com/products/1577/GE_BCA_115V_250W_Daylight/" rel="nofollow">these bulbs</a> seem to fit the bill. Bad: They're $4 each. Deal breaker: They have a life span of 3 hours. Hmm, I forsee 2700 lumen incandescent bulbs arriving on hardware store shelves in the near future…

Don’t hold your breath. As I understand it the lumen output of an incandescent is pretty much linear, so in order to get 2700 lumens you’d need to be pushing 200-250 watts through the bulb. I don’t see a lumen output rating but these bulbs seem to fit the bill.

Bad: They’re $4 each.
Deal breaker: They have a life span of 3 hours.

]]> By: jed http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15545 jed Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:06:47 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15545 See, I figured if I waited long enough, someone would do my research for me. It has to have medium base? Oh, well, there's a loophole big enough to drive a truck through. And several crates of halogen lamps. So typical of our elected representatives to be so stupid as to effectively ban a type of lightbulb, but make the ban specific enough so that a minor adaptation renders it useless. I foresee sales of small-base adapters going up. Pain in the butt for bulb mfrs to retool to small base, though. Oh, and large quantities of halogen track systems are unaffected as well. See, I figured if I waited long enough, someone would do my research for me.

It has to have medium base? Oh, well, there’s a loophole big enough to drive a truck through. And several crates of halogen lamps. So typical of our elected representatives to be so stupid as to effectively ban a type of lightbulb, but make the ban specific enough so that a minor adaptation renders it useless. I foresee sales of small-base adapters going up. Pain in the butt for bulb mfrs to retool to small base, though. Oh, and large quantities of halogen track systems are unaffected as well.

]]> By: Justin http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15544 Justin Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:22:25 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15544 Nope automotive bulbs won't be covered. They spend page after page detailing what's a general purpose bulb and what isn't in the legislation. Among other properties the bulb has to have a medium base as defined by some ANSI standard for this legislation to cover it. That keeps Christmas lights, decorative lights, etc. from falling under the new restrictions. Nope automotive bulbs won’t be covered. They spend page after page detailing what’s a general purpose bulb and what isn’t in the legislation. Among other properties the bulb has to have a medium base as defined by some ANSI standard for this legislation to cover it.

That keeps Christmas lights, decorative lights, etc. from falling under the new restrictions.

]]> By: Josh http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15543 Josh Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:47:36 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15543 Aren't automotive bulbs halogen and therefore subject? Aren’t automotive bulbs halogen and therefore subject?

]]> By: Rob K http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15541 Rob K Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:36:56 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15541 Hmm, I forsee 2700 lumen incandescent bulbs arriving on hardware store shelves in the near future... Hmm, I forsee 2700 lumen incandescent bulbs arriving on hardware store shelves in the near future…

]]> By: jed http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15540 jed Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:52:10 +0000 http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/2007/12/26/say-goodbye-to-the-incandescent-light-bulb-pt-2/#comment-15540 You keep this up, and I might have to actually read the accursed thing myself. Given what you're reporting, it sounds as if it isn't a ban on incandescent bulbs as a type. So I wonder if the state of technology for those is already as good as it can get, practically speaking, for efficiency. Also, it's possible to turn the bureaucracy against itself here, as there are definite problems with fluorescent bulbs in certain applications, such as wood shops, where the strobe effect can cause moving blades to appear stationary. I wonder what OSHA thinks of that. (Not that I want OSHA to get even more obnoxious, but there's a little smugness factor there.) You keep this up, and I might have to actually read the accursed thing myself. Given what you’re reporting, it sounds as if it isn’t a ban on incandescent bulbs as a type. So I wonder if the state of technology for those is already as good as it can get, practically speaking, for efficiency.

Also, it’s possible to turn the bureaucracy against itself here, as there are definite problems with fluorescent bulbs in certain applications, such as wood shops, where the strobe effect can cause moving blades to appear stationary. I wonder what OSHA thinks of that. (Not that I want OSHA to get even more obnoxious, but there’s a little smugness factor there.)

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